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hey. what's your shadow like?

trust me i get why nobody wants to talk about this whole thing. neither do i. but it kinda seems like we ought to compare notes and we can do it anonymous. or you can just use this to vent about how your shadow's an asshole idc

mostly i just keep seeing people say stupid shit and claim it was their shadow and i can't tell if this is just a case of your_experiences_are_not_universal.jpeg (sorry. obviously i don't have the meme on me) or if i'm going crazy. bcuz mine is so quiet i can't even tell it's there usually. so what's the deal???

(before you say i must be a good person who doesn't have much of a dark side: lol. but i'm not some evil psychopath who already acts on their worst impulses either)

and has anyone had any luck getting theirs to fuck off?

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yeah i guess jung* came through here when he died lol (*doctor who came up with the idea of the shadow in psychology, the manifestation of people's repressed desires and weakness. sorry i realised while i was typing the joke i probably needed to explain it)

i've heard voices of people i know too but i assumed that was just my trauma, didn't consider it might have been my shadow. what do you mean "not feeling like yourself" tho??

Ah, thank you for explaining. I can understand the idea, even if I find a shadow quite refreshing sometimes. 🤔 [Look, look, he knows emojis now!]

Repressed desires and weaknesses? Is that what it picks up on? I do tend to imagine what those people would say to me often, too. However, since I've arrived, it's been more vivid. It could be a way of me dealing with this new place, but it has gradually intensified.

[Shoot, how to explain this?]

Feeling somewhat reckless Angry, I suppose? Frustrated, I think that's a better word.

well, mine mostly seems to pick up on fears when it's actually around. to be honest it actually seems to be trying to help me.......

but from what other people have said about their own, yeah it's your worst impulses. it pushes you to act out and needles you about your insecurities. as if i need help with that

ohhhh. yeah, i've been finding that too. like i'm more irritated by everything. again i thought that was just me being a bitch and having a shorter fuse bcuz i'm in hell and it sucks. but maybe that's this place too??? ughhhhh

Ah, I'm sorry to hear (read?) that. That does explain a lot about the things it tells me. It tends to quote others, sometimes placing those things out of context. It's not pleasant, to say the least. Have you learned anything about how to deal with it? Perhaps calm it down? I suppose it feeds on each other, really. It would make sense, right?

yeah mine uses the voice of someone who was pretty much my worst nightmare and just repeats stuff he's said to me in the past in moments when it knows it's going to freak me out. sorry to hear yours sucks too.

my current findings are:
- @vv says he just ignores it. cool. thanks asshole???
- both @mikey and an anon said having a soulmate helps. it's still there but quieter
- @baji says no luck getting it to fuck off and soulmates make it both better and worse

sooooo results inconclusive.

That sounds terrible. No one deserves that. I hope it realizes that it should change its approach if it wants to help you. So soulmates aren't exactly helping, either? I can't really give you my take on that since I don't have a soulmate, but that does remove the whole point of it, doesn't it?

i'm not holding my breath!! if it really is trying to help me it probably has a reason. like it wants to wear my body as a skin suit or something.

and exactlyyyy like WHY am i supposed to do the stupid soulmate thing if it doesn't even WORK

That… does sound horrifying, so I'm still hoping it changes its mind. Or approach. Something. In fact, would you let me know if it does get too much? Understand it's a high ordeal but I believe it's better to not be alone when it happens.

[And to think he doesn't even know who's he talking to......]

I suppose this place doesn't want to make things easy for us. It is the Underworld after all.

thanks for offering. but i chose to do this anonymously for a reason.

yeah, i guess i should just be seeing everything as a different trap or kind of torture. if it's actually hell, then we're here to be punished. if it's not hell, it's just a normal shitty society where things don't work lmao

You can still come to me anonymously. I don't mind it. It seems like you have a lot of things on your mind. In my experience, the underworld isn't all that bad. There are punishments, sure, but the struggle isn't all-encompassing unless you did something so bad as to spite the gods. It seems disorganized, though? Back home, there was a process for everything. I understand it's not an easy thing to manage, but still.

sure, i'll keep it in mind. don't take it the wrong way if you don't hear from me. it's just that i don't want to rely on this.

i think the greek afterlife is more lenient than catholic/christian theology. in catholicism you ultimately either go to hell or heaven, and in hell your soul is tortured forever. you don't have to have done anything particularly bad. you just have to be not pure and virtuous enough to have made it to heaven. you can't get into heaven by doing good deeds either. the only thing that matters is total faith in god. if that's not in your heart then nothing else can save you.

purgatory is sort of a middle ground. if you die and you were faithful but impure, you go to purgatory and can get into heaven by repentance. if you don't repent, you go to hell. but once you're in hell that's it, there's no way to ever redeem yourself. you just deserve to suffer for eternity for your sins.

I won't. The door is still open. Ah, I made it sound a bit too simple, I guess. There are layers to the underworld. I guess that the flaming pit of hell that is described by many people here is the closest thing to Asphodel. But, if this is purgatory, hell, or some sort of strange heaven, wouldn't the presence of that god (or the ruler of this underworld) be more, ah, known?

well.... not in catholicism, at least. if you need to see god to believe in him then you're already going to hell. i'm not saying that's proof this is the afterlife or anything, just that not all gods are as present as you are

they talk about ascension and oblivium though. and it's hard not to notice that it sounds a lot like moving on to heaven/hell from purgatory

Oh… I'm not a god. I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. I suppose you're right. In my perspective, there are those who are in layers of Hades whose fate wasn't determined by their actions, piety, or thoughts. I've known those who have been cursed by the mere fact that another god decided to do something to them.

[Looking at you, Daphne, Medusa, Arachne...]

Have we seen anyone ascending or headed to oblivium, though?

?????? aren't you the son of a god and goddess?? i thought that was how it worked? god + god = god, god + human = demigod

man. growing up catholic was a nightmare but at least you can't get condemned to hell just because.

we have definitely not seen anything. it's written about in some library books, but i haven't talked to any restless that have seen it personally either

Lol, please, what would I be a god of?

[He's always unsure of using this new lingo but he's trying and he hopes whoever this anon is understands it.]

But seriously, it's not always like that. Dionysus' mother was a mortal, for instance. Oh, ah, do you know who Dionysus is? Well, that's something worth investigating, isn't it? I'll see if I can find anything.

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